Brother John Mary has disqualified himself
from the debate on the subject of the Church of A.D. 325. He has
broken every possible rule of scholarly debate, including blatant
ad-hominem argumentation and egregious violation of the
topic parameters. On any scholastic level, this debate is over,
as my opponent has demonstrated a complete inability to behave in
a civilized, let alone Christian, manner. I cite just a few
examples from his most recent posting:
approached the brink of dementia at this point
We hope this
fact gives the reader some insight into the
"logic" of James White
here is either totally dishonest or pathetic and maybe a
little of both.
Further, he has demonstrated
that he has no intention of sticking to the subject at hand. For
example, he spends a great deal of time talking about Luther's 95
Theses, which are posted on our web page for completely
historical reasons. Such only confuses the issues, and adds nothing
to the debate. Luther was not a Protestant when he wrote the
Theses, as I have pointed out to every Church History class I
have taught on the subject.
Also, the most recently posted
rebuttal (which was not sent to us, and no notification was
provided to me that it was even available) is more than 2740
words in length....over 240 words above the limitations designed
by the St. Benedict Center itself. To add to this, rather
than providing in-text citations, hyper-links are used to add
citations without adding to the word limitations. It would be
quite easy for me to add hyper-links to all sorts of my own
statements, and write long text files as documentation, but such
would hardly be fair or right. I have provided my citations in
the text itself, with those citations counting against my word
count. My opponent's actions are unfair and far outside the
spirit of the original agreement.
But most amazing is
"Brother John Mary's" behavior with regards to the
debate itself. Shortly after I began the debate, I was contacted
by a Christian man who forwarded to me the following comments
made by my opponent in an e-mail to him:
I already started mopping
the floor with White as can be evidenced by reading my
opener. ::Hint:: One of the best mopping jobs I will do is
when White tries to explain away the canons of The Council of Nicæa. I'm already laughing.
The only thing that an interaction
between White and myself will show is how men of truth can
really beat up liars. So don't get cocky about the White
debate. When I ask YOU some of those questions, you will also
be crushed -- cause you can't answer them.
Brother John Mary,
I imagine many prots like you are
already wringing their hands wondering why James has not yet
responded. You should see the ton of e-mails from both camps.
This reminds me of a wrestling match I once saw, where the
good guy was sucker-punched when taking off his jacket. This
is what I have done to White. The debate hasn't even really
gotten into the thick yet, and he's dazed from my
sucker-punch opener. :))))
These exchanges were followed by another in
which my opponent wrote the following:
"You know very well White's
getting his scrawny little Prot butt kicked."
Interestingly enough, when I forwarded this
to the St. Benedict Center, things got real quiet for
quite some time. I was not even informed when my opponent posted
his next reply, nor was it forwarded to us. Finally, I wrote
again, and the responses I got in reply say volumes. Rather than
answering for his comments, my opponent insisted I sign the
"I, James White, guarantee that I
have never in my entire life, ever
said anything at all about anybody
that could be considered derogatory.
Most importantly, I have NEVER made
any such statements about any of my enemies, opponents or
competitors in my entire life -- so help me
God! If I have, and I am accusing Brother John
of the same, then I wish God would strike me dead for being a hypocrite and a
phony for attempting to remove the
speck out of his eye while
maintaining the plank in my own. I challenge anyone to bring
counter-evidence to light."
And by the way: Why don't you start
acting like a man by not being a crybaby, ok? I think Vinnie
Lewis was right about you.
I wish to respond to your complaint
about my lack of the use of Christ-like language: You viper!
You white-washed sepulchre! (Full of dead men's bones.) Get
behind me satan. Ok? Happy now?
A question: If I admit I made that
statement, are you willing to turn the other cheek as Christ
said we should? :) Or do you plan to pretend to have
righteous indignation and run away from the debate using this
incident as an excuse?
For most, such behavior
would be more than sufficient to end any and all contact with
someone who, obviously, has severe problems in the field of
behavior (one is forced to wonder if this is not his intention,
allowing him to then claim "victory"). But as there is
an opportunity here to present the truth, I shall continue with
the debate. The reader, however, should be aware of the
A note to serious
Roman Catholic readers: I am fully aware that the St. Benedict Center is
not representative of Roman Catholicism as a whole, and is even
unorthodox in their beliefs. I have had more than one Roman
Catholic make note of this in correspondence. And, I am aware
that the behavior of John Mary is reprehensible to all serious
Roman Catholic apologists, professional and lay alike. I do not
take his antics as being reflective upon serious apologists of my
acquaintance. At the same time, please realize that these folks
do have a presence in the Internet, and do present what looks
like arguments based on fact or
Scripture. My sole desire is to demonstrate that their arguments
are without merit.